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War, Economy, and Life

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SoldiersDear Stealth:

As a Catholic convert, I spent the election season talking with friends, priests, and politicians, listening to Relevant Radio, trying to learn the Church's stance on issues.

I heard, hundreds of times, this idea:
"The war and the economy don't matter.  Life matters."

Never once though, did they explain HOW war isn't a Life issue.  And that's the part I never understood.

I thought the church was against unjustly killing anyone, be they babies or big people.

Could you please explain this to me?
Thank you!  Bless you!

Idealistic in Chicago

 

Whew... this whole apologist thing is not quite what I expected. The questions that you people ask are tough! I was kind of hoping to get questions like:

 

Hey Stealth man, what's going on?
To which I respond: Not much my friend! Thanks for the question!

 

Or

 

Greetings Stealth Apologist! Would you like some money?
My response: Fo' Shizzle!

 

All of your questions are far too complex, and require me to do some actual research. It's getting to the point where my brain is active for more than 15 minutes per day (yes, I said more than 15 whole minutes). That being said, if you can stick to questions that require a binary response (e.g. yes or no, true or false, 1 or 0) that would be fantastic. Oh, and throw in some money for good measure.

So, Mr. Idealist in Chicago, you want to know about life eh? Rather, why so many pro-lifers within the Church seem to be adamant about the sanctity of life in regards to abortion, but ignore the destruction of life posed by modern warfare, then you have come to the right apologist.

 

Modern Politics and Purple Haze

The politics of today is very similar to the politics of ancient Greece. My main man in Inglewood, Socrates, brought to light the problems Athenians were facing when they put their faith in leaders who did not seek the good and the true by means of reason. Rather, politicians of Socrates' day relied on rhetoric to make their case to the people. That is, whoever could convince the crowd that they were right, whether or not their reasoning was valid, was often seen as the purveyor of social justice and good.  Socrates despised this vehemently and suggested to an interlocutor, Gorgias, that rhetoric “creates a belief about the just and unjust, but gives no instruction about them.”

Modern politics seems to do just as Socrates describes. Liberals try to convince their constituents that abortion is a compassionate means of improving the quality of life for the mother, that the war in Iraq is an unnecessary waste of American lives for the sake of an unjust cause, and the economy will impact the lives of millions of Americans. Conservatives, on the other hand, generally seek to persuade the masses as to the evil involved in abortion, the necessity of the just war in Iraq, and that the economy is not as bad as many make it out to be. It's a messy fog of human emotion and fallacious reasoning.

 

Focus, Focus, Focus

Because of all the muddled attempts at persuasion, political issues concerning life have become blurry and skewed. People are passionate by nature, more so than they are reasonable. You don't think that is true?  I'll prove it to you.  What is more frightening: crossing a wide and stable wooden plank over a 2 foot deep chasm, or a 1000 foot pit using the same plank? I would confidently argue that the majority of people would find the latter scarier because of human fear and imagination.  The emotional prospect of falling to their death outweighs the reasonableness of being able to walk safely on a stable plank no matter the height of the fall.  If that's not proof that people are more emotionally driven than they are reasonable, then I don't know what is.

Now that I've proven that people are more emotional than reasonable (and also that we are scared wussies when it comes to walking on planks), I can finally get to the crux of your question. In order to fight the rhetoric spewing liberal media, defenders of life and Church teaching need to clear away the haze of emotion driven argument. In order to do that they tend to present their arguments in absolute terms. Sometimes, as in the case that you present, they move so far to the absolute that their arguments become hyperbolic. They are right to an extent when they say that economics and war are not life issues, but only in certain situations.

Gambling on a Loser

The recent presidential election pit two polar opposites against each other. One candidate was a relatively strong pro-life supporter, and the other was a staunch pro-abortion candidate. According the the Church, abortion is an intrinsic evil. War and bad economics, on the other hand, are not always evil. War is sometimes justified, and even necessary to prevent evil. The economy, also, is a very significant issue but doesn't carry the same moral weight as abortion or war. So, in effect, what the pro-life supporters are trying to do is show that because of the issue of the abortion (an act that is always evil), all other issues are off the table because all other issues do not carry the same moral weight. Let me put it another way: say you are in Las Vegas and you are looking to double the money you got from selling your unwanted Christmas gifts on EBAY this year.  While looking for the best hotel to gamble in, you notice that one stands out among the rest.  The hotel is decked out flashy lights, offers all the lobster you can eat, and lavishes you with free drinks. Emotionally, the hotel looks fantastic. However, your handy dandy Gambler's Guide to Good Gambling that you got from the Internet says that this particular hotel has a 0% chance of paying out any winnings. Would it be reasonable to invest your money in that establishment, even if it does offer free drinks and free lobster? I don't think so, because the significant loss of all of your money isn't worth the small frills. Unfortunately, Americans did just that in this last election.

Abortion is always wrong, and will never be good. Even if a politician offers to reduce war and fix our economy, but also supports abortion, they are investing the soul of our nation in something that will never payout returns of social justice (I'm trademarking that phrase right now!).

 

Way out of Proportion

One more reason why there is such a strong focus on abortion, which causes it to eclipses other life issues such as war is due to proportionality.   The amount of innocent lives lost to abortion far outweighs those that are lost in modern warfare.  In essence, the more innocent human lives lost, the more grave the issue is.  

If abortion was not an issue and two candidates were up for election, war might certainly be an important life issue.  If one candidate is a war monger that seeks to expand power through the use of violence, and the other candidate does not, then a Catholic would have a moral responsibility to vote for the candidate that does not seek war. In addition, if both candidates were war mongers, but one was less of a war monger, then a Catholic would be morally obliged to vote for the lesser of two evils.  Anyway, you get my point: more innocents killed = more badder. (yes that's bad grammar)

 

In Summary

War and the economy are indeed life issues, and if we were living 100 years ago, they would have been pivotal issues in American elections. Unfortunately, because we face the potential of having leaders who support moral issues that can be nothing other than evil, war and the economy fall off the map when it comes to the Catholic vote. We no longer have the luxury of voting for candidates solely on economic and foreign relation issues as we did in the past.  We are now called to elect leaders that will not destroy the most innocent among us, under the guise of compassion and justice.

Last Updated ( Monday, 08 December 2008 23:20 )
 

Stealth Apologist: The Emerging Church Movement

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Josh from Ohio writes:

Dear Mr. Stealth,

I've been hearing a lot about the "emerging church" from within certain Protestant circles.  Can you help explain this movement within Protestantism?
Thanks,

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Josh, now that's a question I don't mind answering. And since you are from Ohio, I'll do it for free (but you owe me!).

 

New Church for a New Millenia

The emerging church movement is a branch of evangelical Christianity that basically says, “Hey gramps, get with the times man! We need a church that Generation X and Y can understand! You are just way too much talk and no substance!” At least, that's what the movement would say if it were an adolescent teenager.

emerging church loves diversity of everythingImagine you are at a Thanksgiving dinner. Catholicism would be like the main course with all of the fixings; mainline protestantism and evangelicalism would be the Turkey salad that your cousin Susie made for herself because she thought that the main course was too fattening; finally, the emerging church would closely resemble your Aunt Gloria's famous gelatin mold that melted on the table last year and got all over everyone's food and clothes.

The emerging church concept is a sort of anti-evangelicalism in that, rather than taking the fundamentalist stance against post-modernism that most evangelical Christians did, it embraced post-modernism as a means to living the Christian life. Now, the movement itself does not have a centralized and formal teaching, so you have various groups within the movement that differ in their view of their participation in post-modernism. Typically, you can break emerging church members into 3 categories: those that witness to post-modernists, those that witness with post-modernists, and those that witness as post-modernists. In essence, some followers of the emerging church may not uphold the ideas of post-modernism and simply view it as a means to have common ground with those who do. On the other hand, some members hold all of the ideas of post-modernism, to include the idea that absolute truth cannot be known (i.e. relativism *shudder*).

Now, the emerging church is like your Aunt's melted gelatin mold in that it subsumes whatever theology and liturgy it finds that suits its needs. The whole idea of the movement is to provide an experiential Christianity that is not simply abstract ideas about God, but a tangible experience that brings you closer to Him. That being said, if you want a plethora of religious practices that are aimed at making you feel good, but aren't really focused on seeking objective truths about God, then the movement is perfect for you! Depending on the group, the movement takes bits and pieces of liturgical practices from Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Anglicanism, and Evangelicalism. Some members, use the sign of the cross, recognize Ash Wednesday, and a whole host of other things. However, only those practices that enhance their experience with God are accepted, which can be pretty arbitrary.

 

Evangelicalism and the Emerging Church Movement

It's ironic that evangelicalism is seen by emerging church adherents as “too traditional, abstract, and dogmatic.” It is almost like a reformation of the reformation. Evangelicals, seem to have no idea how to react to the movement. The majority of them disapprove of it, even going so far as to say that it is a path to the “false church of Roman Catholicism.” That is, the emerging church movement is somehow like a gateway drug to harder drugs like Catholicism I suppose. To which I reply, “that would be sweet.” Others, like the famous pastor Rick Warren (author of The Purpose Driven Life) seem to embrace the concept as a necessary change in Christian thought.


What Should Us Catholics Think?

How should we as Catholics view the movement? Well, as with anything there are truths that are indeed good in the movement. For example, we should all have an experiential relationship with Christ, we should witness to those that espouse post-modernist ideas, and Christianity should be an intrinsic part of our lives rather than an abstract concept. On the other hand, the egalitarian view that all religious and moral traditions hold the same amount of truth is reasonably not the case. To embrace theological and moral relativism is to move away from one extreme (fundamentalism), to another.  In short, the movement falls way short.  But, there is some common ground there that would allow a dialogue between us and emerging church adherents.

All-in-all, this is why it is great that we have the Church. We don't have to worry about making a new Christianity for every new century that comes our way. Fashion doesn't dictate our belief and practices. If it did, I'd advocate that everyone be required to wear a hood and a mask.

 

Sincerely,



The Stealth Guy



Last Updated ( Thursday, 13 November 2008 00:28 )
 

Morality and the Election

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Stealth apologistMichelle from Oceanside, CA asks:

I understand that as Catholics we are told to vote for a candidate that is pro-life.  But since the President of the United States doesn't really have the authority to change laws concerning abortion and other things whenever he feels like it, why can't we vote for the other side if we feel they are the better candidate?  What I mean is, it's not like the laws will change either way during their term.

Michelle, even though I'm stealthy, my response to you will not be transparent; that argument makes about as much sense as "I like voting because it's ice cream time!"  I always find it interesting that so many people use this argument when it comes to life-issues, but not with anything else.  For example, who says "I agree with so-and-so's views on health care and other economic issues, but I'm not going to vote for him because he doesn't have a direct effect said issues."  Just about everything that the Presidential candidates propose cannot be directly implemented by the President.  Economic, health care, and a variety of other issues require the approval of the House and the Senate in order for them to be initiated.  It is blatantly clear that we elect our Presidents because we feel that they will seek to pass laws and other reforms that agree with us.   

Secondly, allow me to paint a mental picture as to the importance of your pro-life vote.  Say you have two candidates: one is named Johanne McClaine, and the other Bara Khobamma.  These are purely fictional candidates, each with their own campaign platform.  Now, let's say that McClaine is running on a platform of cutting taxes, and protecting the life of Michelle's (namely your) family, and Khobamma believes in raising taxes for cheaper health care, but holds a pro-Michelle's-family's-death (say that five times fast) view.  Remember, neither of these candidates has the absolute power to make your family's death happen whenever they feel like it since they have to get it approved by the House, the Senate, and the Supreme Court.  If I were a betting man (and I am, because I am Catholic and I'm allowed to gamble), I would have to assume that you would vote for the candidate that wasn't vying for your family's demise.  I'm not sure how much you love your family, they may be annoying enough to where you don't care, but the point is that most people would like their family to live whether or not they agreed on economics and other material issues. 

The point is, if we are talking about human lives being destroyed or saved then we should vote for a candidate that will seek laws to reduce their destruction, just as we vote for a candidate that we feel will help make our 401K fatter. Priorities, priorities, priorities.  It's not that hard to deduce whether life is more important than economics.  Rather, should I say that human life is more important than money.  We just find ways to rationalize filling our pockets before protecting "the least of these."

Sincerely, 

 

Your Stealthiness

Last Updated ( Friday, 17 October 2008 22:57 )
 

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